Gissa musikrelaterade boken!

[peter4]

Svårighetsgrad 2/5 (relativt såklart):

"Factory Records released the album by Joy Division. It defined romance and misery for the young men of the age. Then Ian Curtis, the singer, topped himself just before their second album was released. The music press deified him. He was an instant rock legend. Their album Closer was a milestone in Rock's Rich Tapestry. And I thought, wow, if that's all it takes, let's kill Mac."

[peter4]

Ok sweclockers 2.0.

..."Well, not actually kill him, just get him to stay at his gran's for a couple of months, with the curtins closed. See how the rock media deal with it. See what the obituaries have to say. See how soon the sainthood is given. See where the record sales go. Nothing as sexy as the death of young man."

[TigerMM]

Alltså den var för lätt (bara en googling bort) så jag ville inte förstöra. Men okej, 45 av Bill Drummond. Utmärkt boktips.

[peter4]

Snyggt!

Jo, men allt ju en googling bort. Karaktär kära Tiger, karaktär.

[outshape]

Fan! Den har jag läst två gånger och tog det inte ändå.

[peter4]

("Mac" är Ian McCulloch från Echo & The Bunnymen)

[TigerMM]

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Snyggt!

Jo, men allt ju en googling bort. Karaktär kära Tiger, karaktär.

Hahaha! Snygg metareferens med brända kanter
Karaktär är ingenting för mig.

[TigerMM]

Hur är det tänkt att tråden ska fortsätta? Som med skivomslagen, vinnaren lägger upp nytt citat? Eller är det du peter4 som är lekledare? Kul idé ju.

[peter4]

Kör på! Du har ju minst tre. Men spela inte smart. Karaktär tiger, karaktär.

[TigerMM]

"I tried not to censor the potential lyrics I wrote down. Sometimes I would sing the melodic fragments over and over, trying random lyric phrases, and I could sense when one syllable was more appropriate than another. I began to notice, for example, that the choice of a hard consonant instead of a soft one implied something, something emotional. A consonant wasn’t merely a formal decision, it felt different. Vowels, too, had emotional resonances—a soft ooh and a pinched nasal aah have very different associations. I felt I had to adhere to whatever syllables seemed to fit the existing melody best, so I’d listen to the gibberish vocals respectfully and let those be my guide. If I seemed to instinctively gravitate to an aahh on the gibberish vocal mix, I’d try to stick to that sound in the lyrics I was writing. More restrictions, but okay."

Svårighetsgrad oklar.

[pawal]

Vild chansning, men Brian Enos dagbok? Det var ju hundra år sedan jag läste den.

[TigerMM]

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Vild chansning, men Brian Enos dagbok? Det var ju hundra år sedan jag läste den.

Fin gissning. Vi tar avstamp i det temat för nästa ledtråd:

"Seeing that we had turned into a pretty tight live band, Eno suggested we play live in the studio, without all of the typical sonic isolation. His semiblasphemous idea seemed worth a try, despite the risk of it resulting in a muddy recording. Removing all that isolating stuff, or at least most of it, was like being able to breathe again. The result sounded—surprise!—more like us, like the way we were used to hearing ourselves on stage, and so our playing was more inspired (or so we felt)."

[kroffe]

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Fin gissning. Vi tar avstamp i det temat för nästa ledtråd:

"Seeing that we had turned into a pretty tight live band, Eno suggested we play live in the studio, without all of the typical sonic isolation. His semiblasphemous idea seemed worth a try, despite the risk of it resulting in a muddy recording. Removing all that isolating stuff, or at least most of it, was like being able to breathe again. The result sounded—surprise!—more like us, like the way we were used to hearing ourselves on stage, and so our playing was more inspired (or so we felt)."

David Byrne "How music works"?

[TigerMM]

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David Byrne "How music works"?

Jamen visst. Grattis!

[kroffe]

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Jamen visst. Grattis!

Kul!
Tar ni den här då?

"Power stations are wicked", he says. "If you just stand in the middle of a really massive one so you get a really weird presence and you've got that hum. You just feel the electricity around you. That's totally dream-like for me."

[TigerMM]

Får man en ledtråd till eller ska jag googla

[peter4]

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Fan! Den har jag läst två gånger och tog det inte ändå.

Koolt ju när det blir så där. Man ligger och läser, så ba, oj, nu zoomade jag visst ut. Man läser om partiet, zoomar ut på samma ställe igen. Osv.

[kroffe]

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Får man en ledtråd till eller ska jag googla

Du får googla och fundera lite eftersom jag inte tror man får nån riktig direkt-träff. Har inte boken med mig på jobbet just nu.

[kroffe]

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Du får googla och fundera lite eftersom jag inte tror man får nån riktig direkt-träff. Har inte boken med mig på jobbet just nu.

Och ytterligare ett citat ur boken:

When I clap my hand , duppy appear to me from coast to coast, flying through the night post and through keyholes. Sometimes they melt the key, if the key is in the keyhole, in a puff of smoke - Pffffffffff . . .

[jgb]

£$P eller någon annan?

[false messiah]

Det är definitivt en brittisk författare. Jag vill säga Jeff Noon utifrån det andra citatet, men det känns inte som första citatet passar det riktigt…

[kroffe]

Ledtråd: Brittisk författare som skrivit om hiphop men här handlar det inte om det. TigerMM har det på tungan utan att veta om det.

[TigerMM]

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Ledtråd: Brittisk författare som skrivit om hiphop men här handlar det inte om det. TigerMM har det på tungan utan att veta om det.

Ha ha va?

[xyltburk]

Någonting av David Toop gissar jag!

[kroffe]

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Någonting av David Toop gissar jag!

Du och TigerMM har rätt svar om ni pusslar ihop er postnings-historia på 99musik de senaste dagarna.

[xyltburk]

David Toops "Ocean of sound"! Gotcha!

[TigerMM]

Haha snyggt!!

[xyltburk]

Ok. Jag har en. Utan att veta om det är alldeles för svårt eller lätt.

Some music spans beyond the lifetime of the individual who composed it, through published notation, recordings and pedagogy. Yet the temporal reach of music is limited. Many compositions are performed only once. Scores, tapes, and discs disappear into storage, to be discarded sooner or later. Music-making presumably has always been part of the experience of Homo sapiens, who it is speculated came into being some 200,000 years ago. Few traces remain of anything musical older than a dozen centuries. Modern electronic instruments and recording media, too, are ephemeral. Will human musical vibrations somehow outlast the species that created them? Perhaps the last trace of human existence will be radio waves beamed into space, traveling vast distances before they dissolve into noise

[kroffe]

Snyggt jobbat xyltburk! Får inga vibbar av den nya texten, måste fundera…

[xyltburk]

Ok, det är nog för generellt. Senare i boken:

Molecular materials alter the terrain of composition. Pliant globules can be molded into arbitrary object morphologies. The presence of mutating sound objects suggest a fluid approach to compositional mesostructure, spawning rivulets, and clouds as well as discrete events.

[xyltburk]

Haha, dödade tråden totalt. En ledtråd är väl att det handlar om tid.

[false messiah]

Pauline Oliveros – Deep listening?

[kroffe]

Brian Eno ”A Year With Swollen Appendices”?

[xyltburk]

Inte speciellt nära än så länge. Pyttekorta snuttar av tid/ljud.

[xyltburk]

Små gryn

[jgb]

Curtis Roads - Microsound?

[xyltburk]

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Curtis Roads - Microsound?

Bingo!

[jgb]

Ha! :-) Tog det på ledtrådarna och letade rätt på graintable synthesis-bok.

Moral as a peppermint!
Moral as a peppermint?
Moral as a sodding peppermint???

Obviously the word peppermint had some unusual connotation back in
1917 that has been lost down through the intervening years.

Från en annan musikrelaterad bok, men vilken?

[jgb]

För svårt?

The speed of modern records is measured by the amount of beats per
minute (BPM) there are in any given record. Using BPM's as a
measurement has only come into existence since the early eighties,
since which time nearly all records have been made with the use of a
click track (electronic metronome). This enables any musicians who may
play on a track to keep in perfect time.

[TigerMM]

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För svårt?

Det svåra är kanske i att det inte är något minnesvärt, utan information som lite vem som helst hade kunnat skriva. Det är alltid lättare med lite mer anekdotiska avsnitt, eller lite mer spejsade teorier. Moral as a peppermint borde man dock ha kommit ihåg om man läst boken. Så pass från min sida, jag har garanterat inte läst den och jag har ju lovat att inte googla mer

[jgb]

The only other reason for having a meaningless solo on your track is
to give the record some instant profile upon the record's release by
making it known in the media that it features a boring but sainted
muso, thus giving it some fake cred. The tried and tested guest
soloists of the late eighties are: Miles Davis on trumpet, Courtney
Pine on saxophone and Stevie Wonder on harmonica. Untried
possibilities that might create some interest would be Jimmy Page or
Junior Walker. But really we would recommend you don't bother - unless
you can get Jimi Hendrix to do it.

The last time the guest solo really helped on a Number One record was
Stevie Wonder on Chakka Kahn's "I Feel For You". In the end it only
provides the D.J. on Radio One with a bit of a talking point or at
best a clincher angle in getting a Newsbeat interview.

When song writers were craftsmen that sat in front of their pianos,
heads filled with melodies and hands searching for chords and long
before multi-tracked recording studios became a vital aid in modern
song construction, they would call this part of the song the "middle
eight" (it had eight bars). They would entertain themselves by
introducing a different chord structure at this point with a
refreshing new melody. This technique still has its charms but you can
leave it to the people who take a pride in writing songs for the sake
of their craft. Even Elton John doesn't bother with them these days.
It's the sort of thing that Green from Scritti has a go at.

Kanske lite mer då?

[false messiah]

The KLF – The manual

[jgb]

Bingo! http://resonance-mao.be/wp-content/u...e-Easy-Way.pdf

[tei]

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Bingo! http://resonance-mao.be/wp-content/u...e-Easy-Way.pdf

Haha, om du hade valt
"Live in lover I want you to be
My live in lover for eternity"
som första citat så hade jag tagit det direkt

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Haha, om du hade valt
"Live in lover I want you to be
My live in lover for eternity"
som första citat så hade jag tagit det direkt

Det var inte helt lätt att hitta citat som inte avslöjade för mycket utan bara lite lagom!

[false messiah]

Har inga böcker till hands här, postar ett citat ikväll.

[TigerMM]

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The KLF – The manual

Men herregud. Denna borde vi ju nästan alla kunna. Fast det stämmer att jag inte läst den - pdf:en har bara legat på datorn i x antal år. Nu blev jag glatt påmind

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It is hardly possible to consider the enormous mobilization of energy that a modern orchestra represents without concluding that the acoustic results are pitiful. Is there any, thing more ridiculous in the world than twenty men slaving to increase the plaintive meeowing of violins? This plain talk will make all music maniacs jump in their seats, which will stir up a bit the somnolent atmosphere of concert halls. Shall we visit one of them together? Let’s go inside one of these hospitals for anemic sounds. See, the first bar is dripping with boredom stemming from familiarity, and gives you a foretaste of the boredom that will drip from the next bar. In this fashion we sip from bar to bar two or three sorts of boredom and keep waiting for the extraordinary sensation that will never materialize. Meanwhile we witness the brewing of a heartrending mixture composed of the monotony of the sensations and the stupid and religious swooning of the audience, drunk on experiencing for the thousandth time, with almost Bhuddist patience, with elegant and fashionable ecstasy. POUAH!

Superenkelt att Googla, men går kanske också att gissa sig till…?

[false messiah]

Inga gissningar? Lite mer då:

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Noise accompanies every manifestation of our life. Noise is familiar to us. Noise has the power to bring us back to life. On the other hand, sound, foreign to life, always a musical, outside thing, an occasional element, has come to strike our ears no more than an overly familiar face does our eye. Noise, gushing confusely and irregularly out of life, is never totally revealed to us and it keeps in store innumerable surprises for our benefit. We feel certain that in selecting and coordinating all noises we will enrich men with a voluptuousness they did not suspect.

Det finns en bandkoppling i textens titel…

[tei]

Ah, det där manifestet känner jag igen! Jag tänker inte svara, för jag har inte något bra att lägga upp!

[DanielW]

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This enables any musicians who may
play on a track to keep in perfect time.

Almost any musicians.

[DanielW]

Around 13.7 billion years later, Thomas Alva Edison, working in his
laboratory in West Orange, New Jersey, shouted “Mary Had a Little Lamb”
into a mouthpiece. The sound was etched onto wax paper and played back,
making Edison the first human being to record a sound and reproduce it. A
few months later, he unveiled the first phonograph, which he used to record
a remake of the poem, this time onto tinfoil. And on a Friday evening
thirty-eight years after that, an Edison phonograph convinced several
hundred people in nearby Montclair that a recording could sound like life
itself.

[false messiah]

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Around 13.7 billion years later, Thomas Alva Edison, working in his
laboratory in West Orange, New Jersey, shouted “Mary Had a Little Lamb”
into a mouthpiece. The sound was etched onto wax paper and played back,
making Edison the first human being to record a sound and reproduce it. A
few months later, he unveiled the first phonograph, which he used to record
a remake of the poem, this time onto tinfoil. And on a Friday evening
thirty-eight years after that, an Edison phonograph convinced several
hundred people in nearby Montclair that a recording could sound like life
itself.

Perfecting sound forever av Greg Milner.

[DanielW]

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Perfecting sound forever av Greg Milner.

Korrekt!

[false messiah]

tei kände ju igen, men ingen har namngett än så det får bli en supertydlig hint:

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My dear Balilla Pratella, great futurist musician,
On March 9, 1913, during our bloody victory over four thousand passé-ists in the Costanzi Theater of Rome, we were fist-and-cane-fighting in defense of your Futurist Music, performed by a powerful orchestra, when suddenly my intuitive mind conceived a new art that only your genius can create: the Art of Noises, logical consequence of your marvelous innovations. In antiquity, life was nothing but silence. Noise was really not born before the 19th century, with the advent of machinery. Today noise reigns supreme over human sensibility. For several centuries, life went on silently, or mutedly. The loudest noises were neither intense, nor prolonged nor varied. In fact, nature is normally silent, except for storms, hurricanes, avalanches, cascades and some exceptional telluric movements. This is why man was thoroughly amazed by the first sounds he obtained out of a hole in reeds or a stretched string.

[oberdada]

Nu blev det ju ännu lättare med titeln i citatet!
En annan version säger:

Dear Balilla Apratella, Great Futurist Composer,
In Rome, at the very crowded Teatro Constanzi, while I was listening to the orchestral performance of your revolutionary MUSICA FUTURISTA with my friends Marinetti, Boccioni and Balla, I conceived a new art: The Art of Noises, the logical consequence of your marvelous innovations.

[tei]

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Nu blev det ju ännu lättare med titeln i citatet!
En annan version säger:

Jag vägrar svara! Men som gymnasialt futurismfascinerad ztt-samlare i tonåren så är det enkelt!

[false messiah]

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Nu blev det ju ännu lättare med titeln i citatet!
En annan version säger:

Det här gör mig ju intresserad av att veta vad som egentligen står i originalet – det är ju rätt stor skillnad på de två översättningarna.

Både tei och oberdada vet ju vad texten är från så jag kan lika gärna avslöja svaret för alla: Luigi Russolo – The art of noises

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Noises

[oberdada]

Jag har citatet från Douglas Kahns Noise Water Meat. Det är väl orimligt att översätta så olikt, så kanske det finns olika versioner av manifestet.

[Hugo Hasslo]

Om bara snuten kunde komma. Nu. Innan gubben dog.
Exner knöt näven hårt i fickan. Snuten...
Han kände något hårt i fickan... minisynthen. Kanske kunde minisynthen vara utvägen.

Okej boken i sig är kanske inte musikrelaterad, men det är ett citat - och ni får gissa!