Det känns som det ända rätta sättet att beskriva GX-1 - som en vit val.Ursprungligen postat av Ambulansen
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.GX-1 - Den enda vita valen
En flygel går ju att lägga på sidan, men hur får man in en GX-1 genom dörren?
Har man en GX-1 så har man nog stora dörrar..😄
[QUOTE=Frengus;3243684]JGB: Polare med WT så klart
https://www.facebook.com/riccardo.grotto.9[/QUOTE
Så här: https://www.facebook.com/dlxmusicsto...type=2&theater - maskinen kan dock rullas genom en 80cm dörrpost utan problemThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
Har den rest så naket emballerad hela vägen? Specialfrakt?
Ja, specialtransport dörr till dörr från sitt ordinarie hem i UK.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
Det var väl Gordon Reid som fick ta upp ett hål i en vägg för att få in sin? Men engelsk byggnadskonst kan ju vara lite speciell...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Så här: https://www.facebook.com/dlxmusicsto...type=2&theater - maskinen kan dock rullas genom en 80cm dörrpost utan problem
Yamaha GX-1 #5041:https://soundcloud.com/ulf-soderlund...anfare/s-ku98uThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Yamaha GX-1 #5041:https://soundcloud.com/ulf-soderlund...anfare/s-ku98u
Härligt!
Och så här låter några av fabriksljuden från det äldre "Svarta" och det nyare "Röda" ljudbiblioteket:This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
https://soundcloud.com/ulf-soderlund...k-test/s-1WI90
En slås av hur pass otroligt "fet" den där kan låta. Imponerande pjäs minst sagt.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
Uppdatering av listan med bekräftade Yamaha GX-1:or:
GX-1 #5088 - SWE - Benny Andersson.
GX-1 #5080 - JPN - Private owner - Previously owned by committee members of a temple JPN.
GX-1 #5076 - ITA - Riccardo Grotto - Previously owned by John Paul Jones, Keith Emerson, Hans Zimmer et al.
GX-1 #5074 - ENG - Richard D James - Previously owned by Mickie Most.
GX-1 #5073 - ENG - Gordon Reid - Previously owned by Yamaha HQ AUS, private owner AUS.
GX-1 #5050 - JPN - Yamaha Corporation HQ (Innovation Road) - Previously displayed at Electone City.
GX-1 #5046 - ITA - Riccardo Grotto - Previously owned by Keith Emerson, painted black.
GX-1 #5041 - ENG - Pete Townshend - Previously owned by private owners AUS.
GX-1 #5040 - USA - EMEAPP - Previously owned by Yamaha Dealers Association AUS, private owners AUS.
GX-1 #5023 - USA - Dion Singer - Previously owned by private owner JPN.
GX-1 #5020 - JPN - Private owner - Previously owned by private owner JPN.
GX-1 #5019 - USA - Merlin Entertainment (Madame Tussauds) - Previously owned by Rock Circus ENG.
Denna hade jag missat... härligt Ulf!
https://youtu.be/ajP6hXHrqkk
https://youtu.be/ajP6hXHrqkk
Uppdatering av listan med bekräftade Yamaha GX-1:or:
GX-1 #5088 - SWE - Benny Andersson.
GX-1 #5080 - JPN - Private owner - Previously owned by committee members of a temple JPN.
GX-1 #5076 - ITA - Riccardo Grotto - Previously owned by John Paul Jones, Keith Emerson, Hans Zimmer et al.
GX-1 #5074 - ENG - Richard D James - Previously owned by Mickie Most.
GX-1 #5073 - ENG - Gordon Reid - Previously owned by Yamaha HQ AUS, private owner AUS.
GX-1 #5050 - JPN - Yamaha Corporation HQ (Innovation Road) - Previously displayed at Electone City.
GX-1 #5049 - CAN - Private owner - Previously owned by private owner CAN.
GX-1 #5046 - ITA - Riccardo Grotto - Previously owned by Keith Emerson, painted black.
GX-1 #5041 - ENG - Pete Townshend - Previously owned by private owners AUS.
GX-1 #5040 - USA - EMEAPP - Previously owned by Yamaha Dealers Association AUS, private owners AUS.
GX-1 #5023 - USA - Dion Singer - Previously owned by private owner JPN.
GX-1 #5020 - JPN - Private owner - Previously owned by private owner JPN.
GX-1 #5019 - USA - Merlin Entertainment (Madame Tussauds) - Previously owned by Rock Circus ENG.
@Ulf; jag var och hälsade på Rob Rosen på Rosensound i LA i somras och såg där mitt livs första GX1 irl med högtalare och allt. Han hade den inne på service.
Vems den var har jag ingen aning om, men du kan ju dra ett mail och kolla om det är någon som inte är med på din lista.
Det är GX-1 #5023 som sedan Januari 2018 står hos Rob Rosen, har sedan tidigare kontakt med ägaren Dion SingerThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
Herr Grotto måtte ha en hvit og en svart.
GX-1 #5046: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theaterThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Herr Grotto måtte ha en hvit og en svart.
GX-1 #5076: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
Galskap...
En artikel i Gaffa om synten och där trådstartaren nämns: https://gaffa.se/nyhet/147076/om-den...ens-enhoerning
Maffigaste elektroniska musikinstrumentet ever! Sorry FC, men denna slår din 8voice
I know...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Maffigaste elektroniska musikinstrumentet ever! Sorry FC, men denna slår din 8voice
T.o.m i viktThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.I know...
Om man tar med högtalarna så är uttrycket "vit val" inte helt missvisande just med avseende på vikt.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.T.o.m i vikt
Tack snällaThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
Så här lät GX-1 #5041 när den var nyrenoverad: https://soundcloud.com/ulf-soderlund...k-test/s-1WI90
Äh! Novachord äter den till frukost.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Maffigaste elektroniska musikinstrumentet ever! Sorry FC, men denna slår din 8voice
Men GX-1an är mäktig, det medges.
Var det efter denna Yamaha lanserade konceptet "Portasound"..?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Om man tar med högtalarna så är uttrycket "vit val" inte helt missvisande just med avseende på vikt.
Kan någon göra en mellan tummen och och pekfingret "överblick" jämförelse mellan GX-1, en "västing" 3-manuals Electone från ungefär samma tid och en CS-80, när det gäller ljudgenerering, polyfoni, etc?
Nickfixd.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
OK, jag börjar med den grundläggande specifikationen för GX-1:an:This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
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The Yamaha GX-1 is basically 36 more or less identical monophonic synths (voice cards) arranged in various logical groups combined into 4 physical ranks. Each rank is controlled by various inputs such as keyboards, levers, modulation generators etc.
The Solo rank consists of a single voice card. The Upper rank consists of 2 layered 8-voice synths, Upper I and Upper II, using a total of 16 voice cards. The 2 synths of the Upper rank can have completely different sound settings and can be detuned against each other. The Lower rank is similar in fashion to the Upper rank. The Pedal rank consists of 3 layered 1-voice synths, Pedal I, Pedal II and Pedal II', using a total of 3 voice cards. The 3 synths of the Pedal rank can be detuned against each other, while only the I & II parts can have different sound settings.
Each voice card contains a VCO and a wave shaper generating saw, saw thru a side chain bandpass filter (25Hz-25kHz 6dB/oct Q=5), sine, pulse, pulse thru a side chain high pass filter (25Hz-25kHz 12dB/oct Q=5) and triangle 2xf.
This adjustable mix, together with noise from a global generator, is then routed through the main filters: high pass (25Hz-25kHz 12dB/oct Q=1-15) and then low pass (25Hz-25kHz 12dB/oct Q=1-15).
The filter topology in the GX-1 and its siblings (C)SY-1/2 is known as Sallen-Key and they all use current controlled impedance elements (diode rings) for external control of the filter frequency and the resonance.
Each voice card has its own envelope generator for the main filters, as well as an envelope generator for the final VCA. All but the Solo rank voice card has a selectable pitch envelope generator with fixed speed and depth.
All of the major building blocks (VCOs/WSCs/VCFs/EGs) of the voice cards are physically made up of discrete components mounted on small circuit boards that are encapsulated in epoxy resin.
There is one global LFO for all 36 voice cards in the machine with fixed speed, waveform and amount for the PWM - this can be activated separately for each sound in Solo, Upper I, Upper II, Lower I, Lower II, Pedal I and Pedal II.
There is one LFO with selectable speed, amount, waveform and destination for each of the Solo, Upper and Lower parts.
The speed, amount and destination for the Solo LFO can also be controlled from the Solo keyboard aftertouch.
The speed, amount and destination for the Upper, Lower or Upper+Lower LFOs can also be controlled from the Knee controller.
The speed for the Upper, Lower or Upper+Lower LFOs can also be controlled from the Ribbon and the Solo keyboard pitch.
In addition to the normal LFOs, the Solo rank features an extra S/H assignable to VCF and VCO, a ring modulator with saw+variable noise color and selectable keyboard tracking, an adjustable pitch envelope generator as well as portamento.
The Upper rank features portamento as well as additional noise or random modulation depending on the revision of the GX-1.
The Lower rank features random modulation depending on the revision of the GX-1.
The monophonic Solo keyboard has 3 sensors:
KBD Velocity (1st Touch Response) modulation assignable to attack time and initial pitch.
KBD Aftertouch (2nd Touch Response) modulation assignable to VCO, VCF f and VCA as well as LFO speed and LFO VCO/VCF f/VCA modulation amount.
KBD Vibrato (3rd Touch Response) modulation assignable to VCO, VCF f and VCF Q.
The polyphonic Upper keyboard has 1 common sensor for all 8+8 voices:
KBD Vibrato (Touch Response) modulation assignable to VCO, VCF f and VCF Q.
The polyphonic Lower keyboard and the monophonic Pedals have no sensors.
Kort jämförelse mellan VCFs:
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The filter topology in the Yamaha GX-1 and its siblings (C)SY-1/2 is known as Sallen-Key, and they use current controlled impedance elements (diode rings) for external control of the filter frequency and the resonance. The filters (NE10400/NE10500/NE11000) are physically made up of discrete components mounted on small circuit boards that are encapsulated in epoxy resin.
The Minikorg 700 uses the same kind of topology and similar small circuit boards encapsulated in epoxy resin (TS201012). This filter does only have one current controlled impedance element - for external control of the filter frequency. The same basic single diode ring design is also used in the Korg MS-50 filter.
The Sallen-Key topology is also used in the filter (KORG35) found in, among other things, the earlier versions of the Korg MS-n0 series - but here the variable impedance elements controlling the filter frequency are comprised of transistors working in reverse saturation mode.
The filter topology used in the Yamaha CS-n0 series is known as State Variable Filter and the filters are made up of Yamaha custom ICs (IG00156).
Kort jämförelse mellan VCOs/WSCs/VCFs/EGs:
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The Yamaha CS-series contains the following custom Yamaha audio ICs:
iG 0 01 50 VCO-II
iG 0 01 51 VCA
iG 0 01 52 VCF-EG
iG 0 01 53 VCO-III
iG 0 01 56 VCF
iG 0 01 58 W.S.C
iG 0 01 59 VCA-EG
They are the functional equivalents of the epoxy-resin filled and pre-calibrated sub modules made up of discrete components found in the Yamaha (C)SY-1/2 | GX-1:
NE 1 01 00 VCO-I
NE 1 02 00 VCO-II
NE 1 03 00 W.S.C
NE 1 04 00 VCF-LPF
NE 1 05 00 VCF-HPF
NE 1 08 00 EG-VCA
NE 1 09 00 EG-VCF
NE 1 10 00 VCF-BPF
NE 1 11 00 VCO-EG-II
NE 1 15 00 VCO-III
Forumets CS-80 och Electone-entusiaster får gärna fylla på med jämförelser...
Tack för den fantastiskt detaljerade sammanställningen för GX-1This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.Forumets CS-80 och Electone-entusiaster får gärna fylla på med jämförelser...
GX-1 är "extra allt" i röststruktur känns det som, och ett instrument som är byggt för att spelas på ett sätt långt bortom "not på, not av". Just performance-kontrollerna och hur man kan påverka ljudet när man spelar på klaviaturet (och viftar lite med knäna som på en tramporgel, "knee controller") är verkligen något som knappt finns ens idag även om MPE börjar bli vanligare.
Knä-kontroller är rätt kul, har det på tramporgeln här hemma, drar på rejält med extra volym när de används.
Är tanken från början med GX-1 en rymdåldersuppdaterad kyrk- eller teater-"orgel", med pall, pedaler, högtalare och allt? Layouten fortsatte ju att leva i senare Electoner, samtidigt som CS-80 byggdes med tanke på ambulerande scenbruk.
GX-1 hade f.ö. platsat perfekt som accessoar i Kubricks 2001
Eller i mjölkbaren! Tänk ett rum inrett som den med en GX-1!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.GX-1 hade f.ö. platsat perfekt som accessoar i Kubricks 2001
Ulf, du råkar inte veta något om en eventuell GX-1 som kan ha stått i studion på ORF i Wien?
Hade en kompis som var radio-DJ i deras indieprogram m.m. i slutet av 90-talet, som talade om en monstruös vit Yamaha-"orgel" som stod där i en hörna och ingen var intresserad av den eller visste något om den.
Jag blev eld och lågor och han lovade att undersöka modell och ta bilder osv. Men en dag innan han hann med detta, var den bara mysteriskt borta!
Här presenteras i alla fall en GX-1:a i något slags musikprogram hos ORF. Dock gissar jag på att just denna enhet var en av Yamahas tidiga demoenheter som under mitten av 70-talet turnerades flitigt, inte troligt att den blev kvar hos ORF efter inspelningen:This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ91KHEbjrc
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Det låter en smula osannolikt att det skulle vara så att den var kvar i slutet av 90-talet ja.
Roligt med videon där oavsett!
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